need help&advices for choosing a tent

Hello everyone, as long as i am new to this forum i firstly want to say a big hello to everyone and congratulate you too for the participation in here that provides so many helpful threads for something we love..Camping!

I am new to the winter camping, never done before in cold periods so i needed your help on choosing a tent that will fit on what i need.

i had 2 different tents in my mind. the first is:

Coleman Phad x3
http://www.coleman.eu/DE/p-23093-phad-x3.aspx
Flysheet: 100% polyester ripstop polyester 210 T, WS 4.000 mm PU coated, taped seams, UV Pro
Inner tent: 100% polyester, breathable polyester 185 T and opaque mosquito net
Floor: 100% nylon, nylon 190 T, WS 5.000 mm PU coated, taped seams
Linkage: ø 8.5 mm aluminum 7001-T6
2 inputs
3 ventilation flaps
5 inner pockets
Construction: all in one
With repair
Pack size: ø 18 x 44 cm
Color: green / anthracite
Weight: 3.95 kg

and the other tent is:

Salewa MIDWAY IV
http://www.salewa.com/product/tents/midway-iv-tent
Number of people:4
Fly:75D 210T 100% polyester ripstop / 70D 185T PU coated 100% polyester taffeta, water column: 4000 mm
Canopy:70D 185T 100% polyester taffetaBottom:70D 210T 100% polyester taffeta, PU coated Hydrostatic head: 5000 mm
Linkage:9,5 / 11 mm Salewa Compound Poles
Tent dimensions (in):220 x 210 x 180 cm (L x W x H)Tent dimensions (exterior):390 x 220 x 190 cm (L x W x H)
Pack size:56 x 21 cm
Weight:7300 g (min) / 7600 g (max)
Extras: Dust cover, mosquito net inserts in the outer tent, repair kit; Apsidenbogen, Mudflaps

before comparing those 2 tents i wanted to suggest me if the MidwayIV it's good for winter. i am asking that because according to the materials used it seems to be equal with many other 4 season tents but according to various descriptions on internet(including the official site) it seems to be more summer tent.
I was thinking that maybe the fact that its 190 cm height and has big dimensions(so big surfaces)makes that tent more exposed to temperature and stability? is that correct?

also, do anyone know what material Salewa uses on its poles? it says ''Salewa Compound Poles'' ..is it aluminium or fiberglass?

this is my requirements:
i need a tent to be used in Greece from September to spring. camping will be stationary not far away from the car (so its not a problem if its not a lightweight) next to the sea and in low height mountains. lets say temperatures could be from zero °c degrees to 20 °c degrees. this is my winter sleeping bag S0° ultralight Sleeping Bag
http://www.decathlon.co.uk/s0-ultralight-sleeping-bag-id_8206686.html
(could this combination of sleeping bag with the salewa tent be a good winter solution?). Also, i am not going to use the tent at snow

my comparison:
I like a lot the fact that salewa midway its spacious with a large front room that someone can stay comfortable in there with a chair and a book ,i also noticed that comparing the front room of Salewa and Coleman, at the bottom of that front room salewa has no gaps and maybe its more comfortable because there will be less dust and cold air flow coming in when someone is down there.
From the other had, having a big tent it will put some space limits on where someone will be able to set a tent.
Coleman seems by its geometry (lower height) to be more stable in case of a strong wind!

i am a newby with no experience on winter camping and i need your help to make a little more clear the things on my mind and finally make a choice on e tent.

Best regards to all and thanks a lot!

 

i will try today getting some info from a store that has salewa products.
what its not clear to me is why the salewa its a 3 season tent, even if it is what i try to understand is if i can sleep in it without freezing at night(with a warm sleeping bag).
i think i like salewa because its a good brand (like coleman) i find it in better price and the most important for me is that it has more space in the porch so i can stay down there with a chair. but, if ill feel cold at night wile sleeping..there is no sense choosing.
generaly , do campers use 3 seasons tents in winters (not extreme conditions..no snow..and considering the cold of Greece not that cold as Canada for example)?
of course i will let you know! in case i choose the salewa i will let you know before going somewhere so if i never get back(because of being converted to an ice cube)someone can come to pick me

thank so much for the info you provided to me!

 

If I were you, I'd try to build a Yurt since you are going to be out there for a long period of time. Yurts are used by nomad's (mainly in mongolia, but in other areas also). It is easier then it looks to put together and take apart. It is great for cold weather camping.

 

I'm definitely an Alaknak man. I have two winter models and one summer modle.

 

....but speaking of Yurts.



This one looks like the one I saw on the Musquash River while headed into Grey Lake.

 

Since I am German I was wondering how you call the kind of tents that just pop-up whe n u throw them on the ground....? Here there are sold under the expression pop up tent... You know what I mean? Thanks a lot!

 

Good to see you online old man.

Pop up tents is a good term - used often. BUT, and it is a personal preference. I stay away from pop up anything. For one reason I find gimmicky items and quick fix stuff not worth the bucks. If you are a serious camper go with good equipment - if the not the very best - that is going to last and be dependable when you most need it. Do the homework - winter is a good time to do that.

Now - having said that I own nine tents [I don't know if I'm bragging or apologizing]. I've accumulated that many and have had a lot more in past because different situations will demand a different piece of equipment.

The general guide [besides setting a budget] is

How often will I use it?
How will I use it?
Is it just for me or will I be sharing?
When will I use it?

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Pop up tent sounds about right for me (also what I ve been reading on blogs lately: fyi) Even though I ve read about them and a friend of mine even owns one, I haven´t had the pleassure yet to try it.. Now if northern dancer says they are not worth much, i am inclined to believe him, still i want to test it one time this next season ^^

 

...here I am. My answer to @Saul Goodman just above you still stands. I'm not really into pop up anything because they are pretty much unreliable. True...you can get some really expensive ones and I would certainly have more faith in those.

It is really important to establish the reason or the intention for purchasing any tent. Regular department stores will sell the mainline products and though some are good if you are really into camping go for something that is more enduring.

If you are thinking summer I tend to fall on the three season side. Since it is winter it is a good time to explore and search out products. Check with Cabela's and Pro Bass as a starter - take a look at the numerous brands and designs. These kinds of tents are not sold at your friendly Walmart Store.

When you got all that done go on line and look for videos that describe the product and provide feedback and consumer information.

Be prepared for a bit of work - there are a lot of brands in the market place.

But, make it fun too.

If you are still interested in the pop up find a store close by that has a floor model. That way you can explore up close and get a real sense of the quality and more especially the longevity of the product.

BUT IF YOU INSIST Here are some manufacturers. [I'm not recommending any...]

Coleman, Righline, Broadstone, Sylvansport, Outwell to name a few.

...and one more thing - if you are going this direction check out the blow up ones - those are the ones that have no poles.

 

The blowup or inflatable tent I was referring to.

Inflatable tents use robust, air-filled tubes in place of pole supports. Simply hook the pump up to input valves and pump away. Most models are quick to pitch with those that use an interlinked 'frame' inflating in around 60 seconds from just one inlet. And for those campers with childhood flashbacks of punctured bouncy castles, isolation valves ensure the tent remains fully inflated in the unlikely event of damage.


The inflatable tent "The Cave" from HEIMPLANET stands for a new way of camping. Its easy and intuitive handling makes "The Cave" become your ideal companion for every trip. It offers more time for the essential: having a good time travelling. Assembling of parts is unnecessary. Inner tent, fly sheet and the inflatable frame IDG work as a union and enable a very quick and uncomplicated set-up (inflation): just unpack it and inflate it - welcome home!

There are others too -

Outwell Concord L
vango inspire 600 air beam
sunncamp breton 500 air

Have fun